QUESTIONS & ANSWERS on my anagram research.

 

14th September 2001

Query

Allan,

 

Thank you for clearing up the false reports running around the net.  I find these writings very interesting.  Also, I am glad you warn to use caution when interpreting these writings.  Right now we all need to use caution.  Also could the line about the tank refer to the plane, since a plane fuselage looks like a tank?

Answer:Thank you, yes you could be right, also the tank could refer to the planes fuel load. Certainly the planes were seized and then plunged into the towers and their near ull tanks were important in the devastation then wrought.

Below is my response to an inquiry just before the disaster of September 11th. It tries to show how my Calendar Code theory would place particular dates by using names and places as ciphers. In it I acknowledge that the order may shift but readers may find it useful to see the sort of messages that apply to this period. I identify it as hinged on the word 'disaster' and this seems most apt in the light of recent events.

September 7th 2001

To XXXX

I am greatly appreciative of your e-mail and am flattered that you enjoy my work.

I do not consider that I have proven anything yet and my material is a work in progress. Some of the content I consider will stand the test of time unaltered but other parts will undoubtedly need adaptation and modification.

The aspects that I believe will stand the test of time are:

    1. Nostradamus used place ciphers and name ciphers as a dating system

    2. His calendar method will prove to be very similar to the modern astronomical calendar invented by the son of Nostradamus' one-time friend (Jules Scaliger and his son Joseph)

    3. The calendar will use solar and lunar cycles to cover a span of 500 years and something like the indiction cycle to span a period of 7980 years.

Some aspects that may not stand the test of time are:

    1. The starting point of the calendar and therefore the start of each cycle. There is a  discrepancy of at least 10 years between the modern astronomical calendar and Nostradamus time-scales (in Letter to Henry).

    2. The category that describes each cipher. They may be broader, narrower or completely different to my deductions.

    3. The order of the ciphers may prove to be different to that which I have deduced.

The need for adjustment can be seen in the material that I am sending in response to your request. It shows a  set of quatrains that fit into the solar cycle of 'disaster' which is the present era. They are interesting in that they have many common themes such as 'doubling' or 'two-ness' (2011 AD). They also seem to be consistent with the year 2000 but there is a discrepancy in that some say they are just before the millennium change and my scheme places them after this event.

The method in this paper indicates a reasonable method of advancing the research. By grouping quatrains  into a Solar cycle by the event (such as 'disaster') I may be able to detect whether it is the starting date that is out by up to 10 years or the order that needs to be adjusted.

AMPLIFICATION OF CIPHER ORDER IN PRESENT PERIOD

 

The current Indiction cycle is the 12th of  a total of 15. This cycle started in the year 1679AD and will run to the end of the year 2210AD.

 

The Solar cycles last 28 years so these started in 1679AD, 1707, 1735, 1763, 1791, 1819, 1847, 1875, 1903, 1931, 1959, 1987, 2015, 2043, 2071, 2099, 2127, 2155, 2183. We are currently in the 12th of 19   Solar cycles. This cycle started in 1987 and runs to the end of 2014AD.

 The above uses 19 lunar cycles of 28 years to cover the 532 years of each indiction cycle. This is the method I believe is valid

(Note an alternative would be to use 28 lunar cycles of 19 years and the dates would then be:

The Lunar cycles last 19 years so these  would start in 1679, 1698, 1717, 1736, 1755, 1774, 1793, 1812, 1831, 1850, 1869, 1888, 1917, 1936, 1955, 1974, 1993, 2012, 2031, 2050, 2069, 2088, 2107, 2126, 2145, 2164, 2183, 2192. We would currently be in the 17th of 28 Lunar cycles. This cycle starts in 1993 and the next starts in 2012AD. This next cycle would run to the end of  2020.)

 Each year of the 532 year period can be represented by two unique ciphers, one for name and one for place. If my analysis is correct the ciphers for the year 2001 would be Italy and Disaster. The ciphers for the year 2003 would be Mind and Disaster (the Solar cycle has advanced by two the lunar cycle has remained the same). The period of Disaster is from 1987 to the end of 2014. This will be followed by the period of Antichrist which will last until 2042 and then the 28 year period of Nature begins. The place ciphers are ' Italy ' in 2001,  'a location given by coordinates' in 2002 and  a 'spiritual place or place of worship' for 2003. Some quatrains that qualify as candidates for  the current period are shown in the table below. They show some interesting commonalities ( the first two for eaxmple use the word 'hundred' and several relate to a comet).

1987

 

 

Worship

 

 

1988

 

 

Pastoral

 

 

1989

VI.5

Very great famine through pestiferous wave
Through long rain the length of the arctic pole
Samarobyn one hundred leagues from the hemisphere
They will live without law exempt from politics.

NEurope

 

 

1990

 

 

SEurope

 

 

1991

II.62

Mabus will then soon die, coming
Of  people and beasts a horrible defeat
Then suddenly one will see vengeance
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run

Anatomy

 

 

1992

 

 

EEurope

 

 

1993

V.90

In the Cyclades , in Perinthus and Larissa
In Sparta and the entire Peloponnesse
Very great famine, plague through false dust
Nine months will it last and over all the peninsula

Adriatic

 

 

1994

 

 

Home

 

 

1995

II.37

Of that great number that one will send
To relieve those besieged in the fort
Plague
and famine will devour them all
Except seventy who will be destroyed

Militia

 

 

1996

VI.10

In a short time the colours of the temples
Of white and black of the two intermixed
Red and yellow ones will carry off theirs from them
Blood, land, plague, famine, fire by water wounded.

Biblical

 

 

1997

 

 

Britain

 

 

1998

I.69

The great round mountain of seven stades
After peace, war, famine, flood
It will roll far sinking great countries
Even the ancient ones, and of  great foundation

Features

 

 

1999

 

 

Africa

 

 

2000

X.74, II.84

The year of the great seventh number accomplished
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter
Not far from the great millennial age
When the buried will go out from their tombs

Calendr

Between Campagnia, Siena , etc
6 months 9 days not a drop of rain
The strange tongue in Dalmatian lands
Overrun, devastating the entire land

 

2001

II.30, III.19, V.63

One who the infernal gods of Hannibal
Will cause to be reborn, terror of mankind
Never more horror nor worse of days
From out of the past through Babel to the Romans

Italy

In Lucca will come rain, blood, milk
Shortly  before a change of praetor
Great plague, war, famine, drought seen
Far away where prince & rector will die

From the vain enterprise, honour etc
Boats tossed among Latins, cold, etc
Near Tiber, the land stained with blood
& diverse plagues among mankind

2002

V.98

At the 48th climacteric degree
At the end of Cancer very great dryness
Fish in sea, river, lake boiled hectic
Bearn , Bigorrein distress through fire from the sky.

Coords

 

 

2003

 

 

 

 

 

2004

IV.98

Those of Alba will pass into Rome
By means of Langres the multitude muffled up
Marquis & Duke will pardon no man
Fire, blood, smallpox, no water the crops will fail

Cent France

 

 

2005

 

 

Asia

 

 

2006

 

 

Persia

 

 

2007

 

 

MidEast

 

 

2008

 

 

NSEW

 

 

2009

I.16,II.46, II.65

The scythe joined with the pond towards Sagittarius
At the high point of its ascendant
Plague, famine, death by military hands
The century approaches its renewal

Astronomy

After great trouble for humanity etc
The Great Mover renews the ages
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel & plague
In the heavens a fire seen, long spark runs

Great calamity in the sloping park
To be done via Hesperie & Insubria
The fire in the ship, plague, captivity
Mercury in Sagittarius Saturn will fade

2010

II.19

Newcomers, place built without defense
Place occupied then uninhabitable
Meadows, houses, fields, towns to take at pleasure
Famine, plague, war, extensive arable land

Towns

 

 

2011

II.6,VIII.17

Near the gate and within two cities
There will be two scourges the like of which was never seen
Famine within plague,people put out by steel
Crying to the great immortal God for relief

Cities

Those well off  will suddenly be removed
Through the 3 bros world put in trouble
The enemies will sieze the marine city
Famine,fire plague, all evls doubled.

 

 Many of these verses flow into nearby locations possibly indicating they overlap or cover a range of years. e.g. II.65 has classical names as well as astronomy 2009-2011AD and II84 has Calendar and Italian names 2000-2001AD.

CALENDAR FOR OUR TIMES (grey=Celebration, brown=Disaster, blue= Antichrist cycle)

 

 

Cipher

Theme

 

Cipher

Theme

 

Cipher

Theme

 

Cipher

Theme

Year

No.

List

Year

No.

List

Year

No.

List

Year

No.

List

1980

22

NSEW

1990

04

Southrn Europe

2000

14

Calendar, Feasts Dates

2010

24

Towns  these verses & villages

1981

23

Astronomic, Zodiac

1991

05

Anatomy Sites

2001

15

Italy

2011

25

Cities

1982

24

Towns & villages

1992

06

Eastern Euorpe , Albania , Russia

2002

16

Coordinates

2012

26

Kingdoms and domains

1983

25

Cities

1993

07

Adriatic , Malta , Greece , Egypt , Rhodes

2003

17

Ethereal place for,spirit, soul

2013

27

Regions & Provinces

1984

26

Kingdoms

1994

08

Home, Palace, chambers, rooms

2004

18

Central & Southern  France

2014

28

Names from Literature

1985

27

Regions & Provinces

1995

09

Military Post, camp, battle field  or vehicle

2005

19

Asia including China

2015

01

Places of Worship

1986

28

Names from Literature

1996

10

Biblical Location

2006

20

Persia

2016

02

Pastoral, countryside

!987

01

Buildings for Worship

1997

11

Britain

2007

21

MidEast

2017

03

Nrthrn Europe

1988

02

Pastoral,   countryside

1998

12

Geographic Features

2008

22

Compass Point NSEW

2018

04

Southrn Europe

1989

03

Nrthrn Europe above france

1999

13

Africa

2009

23

Astronomic point, zodiac position, eclipse

2019

05

Anatomy Sites

Hope this is what you were wanting

 

Question 2.

January 6, 1999: G.C. in Belgium

..I dropped by your pages on the anagram analysis of his [Nostradamus] texts.

Although I'm convinced he used 'some' kind of coding system, and why not anagrams, I have real doubts about the 'hidden messages' you found in the first quatrains. Let me explain:

The MAJOR error you seem to have made is using a lexicon in ENGLISH! Why on earth would Nostradamus have hidden his messages in English, if he himself was French and the major language used in sciences at his time was Latin?

Maybe you could find some interesting results if you used the texts from the original French first version printed in Avignon (France) in 1556, and compare it to a lexicon made up of French or Latin words used at Nostradamus time, not our modern age-language...

Sorry to have disappointed you, but if you insist on presenting your material as some sort of scientific method, you should always check your sources..

Answer to Question 2.

G., your message, far from disappointing me produces other, more positive feelings.You are not the first to realise the enormity of choosing modern English for the analysis for this was part of my pre-thinking into the problem. My choice was not accidental but the result of a process of logic. A logic that finally suggests that any coding is more likely to be in the language of the decoder than that of Nostradamus time.

If the research concerns code by an ordinary person of the sixteenth century whose language base was French and Latin a researcher would be assuming too much if he used some other language. But, if the hypothesis is in relation to a persons prophetic abilities, it is actually contradictory to presume that the author of the code could not have used future language. This same logic applies to the exclusion of modern persons works from the coded message (e.g Wagner).

If you can validly assume that Nostradamus could not have used ideas available in the future then you must conclude he could not see the future. The assumption makes for a self-fulfilling hypothesis.

But in reality it is almost absurd to suggest that if a person  could see the future and the decoder of his work, he would not build it in a manner consistent with that future reader.

Take for example the assumptions in "The BIBLE CODE" by Michael Drosnin , Weidenfel, 1997, in which a being of vastly superior abilities purportedly builds an exact mathematics code in an ancient document that successfully incorporates every possible happening into the future. The author then denies this superior being the skill of linguistics and in particular future linguistics, by insisting that the code only works by using the ancient tongue and language at the time of its being coded. This assumption appears more like that of prejudicial scholarship rather than one consistent with the hypothesis.

In conclusion I would observe that my assumptions do not imply NOSTRADAMUS was able to see the future, but that if I am to investigate his code, my hypothesis must embrace all avenues others claim were available to him, not just those available to ordinary persons. It is only by assumptions consistent with the hypothesis that we can have any assurance in the cornerstone of science; the cornerstone of 'disproof'.

My analysis in English should fail for many, many reasons and it is why they do not that is the more relevant and interesting question.

SOURCES: 

Another aspect in my preplanning was a recognition of the problems associated with sixteenth century written and printed documents. There is a need for modern approaches that reduce the weaknesses of that centuries technology.

The method of split anagrams was chosen as a method worthy of use for it has the potential to remove the problem of unreliable lettering and wording where messages are repeated. This mechanism also offers good coding qualities where multiple coding is desired.

The following is Erika Cheetham's statement on the originality and reliabilty at the commencement of 'The Final Prophecies of NOSTRADAMUS'

"The French text of the quatrains reproduces as closely as possible that of the original edition of 1568 (Benoist Rigaud, Lyon. Any printing faults and errors of that edition are therefore also reproduced here."

I have relied on her version because the time she has given, her access to original sources  and her expertise level appear such that I see no need to reinvent a less well rounded wheel.

End of Q2

Question 1.

January 1, 1999: S.O. in Italy.

Happy New Year....I am collecting information regarding his (Nostradamus) predictions affecting the year 1999..and the Antichrist. Has your research affected any part of these areas.

Answer.

Antichrist occurs as a split anagram only twice ( C.III,Q.67,L.2  & C.V, Q.37, L.4). Ninety-nine occurs only once (C.IX,Q.6,L.1). The words 'millennium' and 'MIMICIX' do not occur at all. These are all very low incidences and do not seem to be the basis of any message held within the anagrams.

My research is into the methodology of Nostradamus and this is what the English anagram method seems to focus on. It is full of encodement words and references to Nostradamus and his text. The verses containing the anagram for 'Antichrist' each hold an anagram for 'Centuries'. The verse containing the anagram for 'ninety-nine' holds the word 'quatrain'.

Below I show the format for the lines that arises using 'strongly supported' anagrams. It can readily be seen that the word Antichrist does not fit into their structure.

 

Centuries III quatrain 67 line 2
Meprisant mort or honneurs et richesses
Poem is  important  to set Northern  ciphers to Centuries Southern stresses

 

Centuries V quatrain 37 lines 3 & 4
Vingts mois apres tous et records
Discovering most pairs used to setout Centuries secret codes
Leur Roy trahi simulant haine faincte
Rules to this story are a simulation of the ancient faith

Addendum Jan 4'99: compare 'antichrist' (2 occurrences) with 'prophetic' and 'prophecies' (8 & 7 occurrences). Analysis shows that on a statistical basis alone each word is most significantly linked to the following sets: Prophetic equation (in) dual-line address and Prophecies accept poetries scheme. The analysis on words producing the strongest word groups yields these two messages for the key words prophetic & prophecies. Prophetic equation (in) ancient legend guide and Prophecies chosen Polestar aspect setout poetries celestial scheme. Each analysis shows all the words of highest statistical signifigance with minor adjustment to their order.

There are very few strong anagrams that can be linked to C.IX, Q,6, L1 but a most disturbing interpretation can be placed on it. I am doubtful that it has any meaning. The problem with anagrams is that unless there is a supporting analytical science too much can be made of isolated words.

Centuries IX quatrain 6 line 1
Par la Guyenne infinite d'Anglois
Plague-year in nineteen ninety-nine isolating England indefinitely

This theme can also be forced onto the next line of the verse but it does not increase its credibility.A major anagram in each of these two lines is not quite correct (indefinitely & quarantined). The same theme does not appear to be present in the remaining two lines.

Occuperont par nom d'Anglaquitaine
Occur upon part   nominated in modern quatrain : England once more quarantined
Du Languedoc Ispalme Bourdeloys
Dual   coding in psalms simple spacing is UUagner guidance in  pagan double   melody
Qu'ilz nomeront apres Barboxitaine
Equation lies in zones separation:  opera retains arab astronomers orbit  boxes  

It is more likely that the first two lines should read:

Centuries IX quatrain 6 line 1
Par la Guyenne infinite d'Anglois
Pagan angular year definitely aligned to Polaris
Occuperont par nom d'Anglaquitaine
Conceal code to produce pagan equation important to quatrain in nominated opera

All lines are now linked by common themes relating to the decoding of the quatrains via a pagan astronomic equation built into a double coded melody in Wagners operas. These are all ideas supported by statistical analysis and to be found throughout Nostradamus Centuries.

End of Q1

TRANSCRIPTION of Nostradamus text from Erika Cheetham's "The Final Prophecies of NOSTRADAMUS", Warner Books, 1995.

Paper written by Allan Webber, last updated January 3rd 1999.

Email address: alyn@kern.com.au

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